the title is true. not confirmed,but implied.
What's on your mind?
If you had to condense watching the 105 episodes of the original Gatchaman to its important episodes (the ones that drive the main plot forward) which ones would they be? And now that we're on the topic, which are the best episodes? I want to recommend the show to someone but 105 episodes is a bit daunting so I want to get a list of the essential stuff and best to watch. Thanks
I love Hajime! She's a very unique and original character. Although she's seen as an energetic, happy-go-lucky girl; Hajime is the most mature person in the series. Hajime never shows her anxiety. She is never angry or sad, she never ever cries. She's not trying to be strong, just that she's never afraid. She sees and and understands the issue the most. She doesn't just look and fights in the front. She looks at the issue completely. She's not like those other positive characters, who can only think 'we can do this!' And work hard; Hajime knows how to do it. Not only in situations, she looks at a person or even aliens, in their outside and inside. She doesn't judge and tries to look for reasons and meaning. She's not like those overly kind characters who cries, laughs, and tries to work hard with her friends; not likeThe kind characters who hates her/friend's/family's enemy; or even those kind characters who pities and tries to find kindness in their enemy. Hajime is not like them. Hajime treats everyone with same kindness; friends or enemy; hood or bad. Not to mention, she's actually a realist and very down-to-earth.
I create free to play games and would love to feature them in one or more titles but I can't seem to figure out who to contact for permission to use the characters in my games...
Does anyone know?
Recently, a Gatchaman fan on Tumblr had posted some concept art of this scrapped character. I'm not sure how many other production sketches were done of him, but it appears that the Japanese home video releases of Gatchaman II (and some rare Tatsunoko exhibitions) have these early planning notes included as extras.
There appears to be a general sort of netiquette/concern in not publicly sharing development material in the Japanese fandom, although Jack's age was revealed to be "14". It also appears his bird style could be described as "Falcon", since the original Japanese for the codename is "Hayabusa no Jack".
For anyone curious of his look, Jack was basically designed to look like a younger Joe, right down to his uniform emulating his brother's (save for a minor color difference or two, particularly in the helmet). I don't know if there's any concept art of his streetwear, but if they'd considered keeping the numbered shirts around, it's reasonable to assume he'd have a "6" one. I'm not sure if there's any concept art for Space Joker, and if there is, it appears even harder to come by.
So keeping in all this in mind, I'm not sure if the scant information available warrants even a brief article on this guy, but the concept art and whatever notes are available could be put on some sort of page. What do you all think?
In the article about the characters' underwear and swimsuits from the Gatchaman Crowds Animation Note, the director of the series confirmed that Rui is a male character.
The article's translation can be seen here: http://yoshi-x2.tumblr.com/post/75456575098/gatchaman-crowds-g-members-swimsuit-male-characters
How come sentaifilmworks solicitation of the set ( Gatchaman season 1) does not acknowledge his contribution and gives credits to Tatsuo Yoshida? It's been known I assume among the Gatcha community that Amano was responsible for the character designs.
Just looking at Berg Katse's weird female form......instantly you see the Amano look/style.
If only we could get tatsunokofan to join in............
Thanks to both of Aldo and MissReven, the links provided has given me a little insight on an issue I started in another thread. So aside from saving Joe, Dr. Rafael, though in a fictional sense, gives credence to the fears of Stephen Hawking about sending too much info out into the unknown (hello SETI)
Based on tatsunkofan's notes, Dr. Rafael inadvertently called Sosai X to Earth, his greatest sin. How he attracted that glowing head's attention, he tried to rectify that by contacting potential "enemies" of Sosai X but stopped when that means was used by Sosai X as a weapon or something that made it less "healthy" for the doctor.
So unlike the OVA which had Sosai X visiting Earth 2-3 million years ago (more like running away from his enemies), Sosai in the original was sent from Selector to search for a new world 2 million years ago and must have been wandering space for quite sometime. So factoring how he might have travelled in faster than light speeds, he arrived on Earth just before the Earth registered that "super nova" explosion in the Andromeda galaxy.
One part of tatsunokofan's notes about "contacting" friendly aliens. Could those be the ones he managed to "call" inadvertently but made contact instead with Dr. Nambu? Though Dr. Nambu stated in the Galactor Island episode when he rescued Joe, it was only then that he became aware of the existence of Galactor( or maybe he wasn't really telling everything to the crew............wasn't that a convenient coincidence that he was just passing by a scientific conference and made a detour to Galactor island?)
Ever since you guys introduced those links, been trying to register and.........kaput! I won't accept new registrations.
I dug out my copy, and this would be the full correct title. I'm currently going through it, to see what there is to offer. The edition I have is from 2002, and I'm aware that there's a slightly updated version that Twomorrows had released the following year. I'm not sure of all the exact differences between them, though one update may have been to cover Jameson Brewer's death in '03. Another change seems to mention Sandy Frank's plans for the redubbed/revamped "New Adventures of G-Force" series that ultimately fell through, and mentions the pilot having been completed.
Page 13 briefly references the two failed Gatchaman reboots of the '90s:
Gatchaman '96: Described as "a more "kiddyfied" version with super-deformed characters. The team would have included two female members and their base was to have been a massive flying platform. But aside from some very preliminary artwork, nothing further was done on this version."
(So either one of the guys would have been replaced by a girl, or someone at Tatsunoko was still trying to make a G-6 member happen. In that case, I wonder if the girl would have been the Hawk then, too...)
Gatchaman '98: "A lot of early production drawings and series planning were completed for the tentatively-titled "New Gatchaman" series but nothing came to fruition. The plans were to mix up the original with newer elements that would appeal to the current audience." Among the bits Hofius describes...
- New Gatchaman/Gatch 98 would be set in 2021.
- Berg Katse, Gel Sadora, and Egobossler each commanded a different Galactor army.
- Red Impulse squad is entirely comprised of women (so presumably something else happened to Kentaro)
- Ken and Jun are both searching for missing siblings (Between the very first idea for a Gatchaman sequel with Joe's brother and then this, the "long-lost sibling" plot point seemed to be a favorite)
There's a brief note on the NTT ads, but no indication if they were meant to spark interest in a remake or not.
Since the book's meant to be focused on the BOTP adaptation, the Gatchaman series and its sequels are kind of a footnote and it just barely gets into G-Force: GoS.
I'm not sure this forum would be a good place to cite sources from, but Tatsunokofan had posted bits and pieces of trivia from the different planning notes there over time.
I've been delving through it in hopes to pin a title/source to different bits of trivia, such as the year and the title of each establishment.
What's known is that the earliest idea for a sequel was "Gatchaman 2" (no Roman numerals) and it's believed to have been dated in 1976, since it referenced the original series wrapping up two years earlier. This is the treatment that had Joe as Space Joker, and Jack/G6.
"Regardless, in the "Gatchaman 2" Planning, Governor X was to have saved Joe by making him into a cyborg who worked for Gallactor. Joe would have spent his time combatting the Science Ninja Team under the guise of the Space Joker (With the "Jo" part of "Joker" being spelled using the same katakana as the name "Joe" was). One of his main weapons was to be black-colored Feather Shuriken, and his main ship was a flying mecha named the "Condora."
What eventually became Gatchaman II was originally titled "New Science Ninja Team Gatchaman" (or "New Gatchaman"). This had Joe as an android, and a villain named Sadomadonna. Within various revisions to the series bible, Joe would actually be brought back (although cybernetically-modified), and the series villain would be Gel Sadra.
Some details to Sadomadonna/Sadra are here: http://www.gatchamania.net/thread.php?postid=50636.
And some stuff on Dr. Einstein (early Dr. Raphael) and the android!Joe:
And there's some info on Dr. Pandora's development: http://www.gatchamania.net/thread.php?postid=49941
And the early concept of the Devil Star assassins ("Beautiful Ladies") from the original series: http://www.gatchamania.net/thread.php?postid=51854
Some info on Katse, I'll try to find the rest (like the original plan for their identity): http://www.gatchamania.net/thread.php?postid=50642
As for other development info, Hofius' "Battle of the Planets" site has information on the team members' early development names (ie: Ken Hayabusa, Jun Shiratori, etc.), as does one of the Gatchaman documentaries on one of the extra discs in ADV/Sentai's collection.
Feel free to contribute anything else you've found!
The Powerpuff Girls got away with it (and that was more or less targeted for the younger demographic). I remember how after a dozen unnecessary beat ups of your generic goons, blood splattering etc. Even the character "Him" (really, he had a very feminine voice and appearance) and nobody raised a howl?
Is comical rendering of violence okay while the almost detailed seen in Gatchaman bad? Talk about a warp logic but then again, it was the 1970s and kids shows had more rules to contend with.
The show really was ground breaking (what was the air like in the 1970s anyway? (lol!) Berg Katse reminds me of the 1980s Cobra Commander and Baronnes all rolled into one. Bumbling, stupid, very cold blooded and a master/mistress of disguise. And the Cobra goons are so inept that they could have been hired from the recently unemployed Galactor labor pool.
It always bugged me why Katse had a lipstick on........was he metrosexual before his time? Hermaphrodism is indeed a biological phenomena in the animal kingdom and he was a mutant (nope, no agenda here) which Dr. Nambu (spoilers) postulated that nuclear radiation might have been the cause of Berg's condition. And again, the American version had to do a total re write of the series canon (no wonder BoP is such a wack job as posted in this wikia). Really like how into "science" the original show's writers were + a sprinkle of fiction.......an over the top fiction.
Tatsunoko indeed pulled out all the shots when rendering the near fluid fight and action scenes. Especially on Jun in her unguarded shots. Whteher "she kicks high" (to quote a phrase from the DOA series) or the jumping flip with Ken in episode 1 or the opening scene when the entire team does that circle sky diving manuever (again copied by the Bionic Six). The time and effort just to render those frame of animation........amazing.
On the violence. Boom here, boom there. What else do you expect from a terrorist group determined to rule the world (to quote the G.I. Joe narrator). Though it sort of bewidered me when in episode 2 of Jigo Killers(spoilers), the blood color of one Galactor goon was green. Was that intentional or was it "modified" by ADV/Sentaifilmworks? And yet in the following and last 5 episodes(especially), blood splatters everywhere (the the goons were more intent to kill).
And the music. Kudos to the show's composer and of course the creators. It never grows old listening to the Op and closing theme and the action themes.
I could go on and on. No wonder it over extended to 105 episodes.
In an episode the Who is Leader X, two of the Galactor goons sent to fetch the scientist who built the cyber horses, well they look a lot like Doronjo's 2 bumbling goons.....only more detailed. And nearly 6 years before Yatterman was aired.
I also noticed the Mach 5 among the cars in the race track in the poignant ending scene of Joe waiting for the(spoiler) blonde racer/Galactor agent he killed (who later is revealed to be his childhood buddy's fiance) he promised to race with the previous day after rescuing her from a car wreck in the Plan to Assassinate Dr. Nambu.
Talk about a convoluted, operatic, melodramatic plot for teenagers 40 years ago (hats off to the writers back then).
This can be an all-purpose discussion for finding images and information related to the shelved CGI film.
I've found a few concepts so far, though I'm not sure if they'd be good enough quality for the wiki. Still, interesting to look at.
http://btesto.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co=57487&weid=11787&weiid=4207142&mindate=19900101&maxdate=20501231&lso=lotnumasc&pagenum=17&action=PreviousLotInAuction&lang=En Team designs. These were the most recent versions, and it's unfortunately kind of small, but it looks like Ken and Jun were more OVA-inspired at that point.
Tommy Tejada's concept art of the team.
Jun's profile. I'm curious where this fan grabbed it from, and if there are any similar profiles for the other team members floating around. This is dated 2007, so she still had her original series hairstyle and not the OVA bobcut.
Some concept art, including a dark-skinned version of Ken
Kevin Chen's takes on Joe, Ken, and Katse. Patrick Awa and Todd Uyeminami were two other members of the art team for the film.
Screencaps from the old trailer
The OVA-inspired costumes
2009 trailer look, with the team in costumes more like their classic ones.
I was looking through this wiki, and sadly must note that GatchOnline is no more. Any links sourcing it might have to reference any Wayback Machine archives if available, unless a robots.txt script was put on the server.
It's unlikely to be revitalized, unless another fan mirrored the site. The original webmaster sadly passed away a few months back, and it is unknown what her wishes may have been. It's still pretty sad what had happened to her and a shock.
Her fansite and "Home of the White Shadow" were both great resources for the series years back. Right now, it remains to be seen if any site can match up to what those fans had done for others.
For those curious about BOTP, Jason Hofius (an old-school fan and one-time employee at Sandy Frank) did make his own site for it: http://www.battleoftheplanets.info. It's more comprehensive of that version than the original Gatch, but it's something.
I got to hand it to the producers of BoP. Despite going scissor happy on the original source material, after watching on Youtube "Attack of the Terrapin" (gawd where did they dredge the name lol!), a lot of effort was made to make the story as seamless as possible. As we all grew up with the series, back then it really struck a cord within our kid fantasy psyche. Even today, no series (American produced) could ever come close (well back in the mid and late 80s it was different).
I'm really surprised as how large the difference is between the Gatchaman version was and BoP. Same can be said with G-Force. A bit of tweaking on the dialogue and the story is given a 360 degree turn around. I remember in the cross country race between Joe and the Galactor defector. In Gatchaman, Katse was hot to press her destruct button while in G-Force, "Galactor" had second thoughts. And the sight of blood. Most of the time, especially in the last episodes, blood splatters were nearly everywhere.....that's good lol! But there was a scene in early episodes where a Galacter soldier falls on a torture rack meant for Ken. The rack had some spikes on it but when the soldier got impaled, he had green blood(why?).
On some technical issues of the SFW version.
SFW too had some technical goofs in the dialogue where the Turtleking commander shouts "Now!" in the Japanese dialogue and says "Galactor" in the english dub. Another issue I noticed in the episode where Katse's origins where being dredged up, in a scene (SPOILERS) with the sumo assassin in the prison, you can hear in the english track Jun shouting "Yoyo strike!" even before both she and Ken appears.
This is by no means make me a nitpicker with too much free time in my hands, because like Berg Katse before Sosai X, i bow before ADV/SFW for undertaking this reissue after nearly 8 years....finally.......I got the entire collection. Thank you very much guys!
In my 1992 Animag (a b/w anime focused mag d'uh) magazine which featured Gatchaman, the article supposedly claims that according to the creators at Tatsunoko, the technology used by the team came from a friendly "alien" source opposed to Galactor. I finished the 2013 sentaifilmworks dvd set and nowhere was the "alien" factor ever mentioned. Was this a red herring or mentioned in Gatchaman II or Gatchaman F?